I’m wondering if it’s possible to create citations directly from Tropy onto a text editor. Let’s say I want to cite a given item from Tropy and I don’t want to manually copy the reference. Is there a way to export the item to the clipboard just like Zotero does with bibliographic references?
Thanks in advance, I browsed through the forums to find the answer but I didn’t.
“Tropy is not a citation manager (e.g., Zotero). It does not capture metadata from online catalogs or finding aids. It does not generate citations for use in word-processing software.”
There are currently no plans to generate citations directly in Tropy.
However, we have already developed a plugin to export Tropy items to Zotero (it’s not released yet, because we still need to tweak the configuration options). This plugin converts Tropy items to CSL-JSON first, which Zotero can import. It would be possible to adjust this plugin (or create a similar one) which feeds this CSL-JSON straight to citeproc-js (used by Zotero to generate citations) – that’s an option we have not really considered so far.
That said, obviously we’d like you to use both Zotero and Tropy! Is there any reason why you would like to generate citations straight from Tropy, or rather, any reason why it wouldn’t make sense to manage those items in Zotero?
The plugin itself is almost ready for use, if you would like to experiment with it. Mainly, what it does is to map metadata fields to CSL-JSON fields. To make this work for you, you would likely have to adjust the template we use for conversion or create your own template in the template editor.
If you don’t want to experiment with this yourself, you can also help us by showing us some Tropy items and what corresponding item you would like to get in Zotero.
I’m not sure if I understand what you mean by “showing us some Tropy items and what corresponding item you would like to get in Zotero”.
To give you an idea of what I mean: I recently installed Zotpick in order to insert Zotero citations into a LaTeX editor as shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJWmtH2fZLk
So instead of going to Zotero to look for the citekey, I can insert the reference without leaving the text editor window. In the case of Tropy that would mean generating a reference directly on the text editor without leaving the window (e.g. “Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Box 3, Folder 4”). Obviously I know we’re still a long way from having an equivalent of Zotpick for Tropy, but anything that gets near would already be a big step.
I wanted to see if there was any update to this. I mostly use Zotero to organize my PDFs of archival materials at this point (it’s just easier to have it all in one place and I will eventually end up needing to cite it; also I was already using Zotero and needed something that would actually run a search of my PDFs because the Apple Finder search function is terrible). I recently downloaded Tropy and am excited about it but it’s really all a non-starter if I can’t use it for citations at the end of the day (especially because Zotero now has some PDF editing features). The main reason I was looking into it is because sometimes it would be nice to have a shortcut to a specific page in a PDF instead of to the PDF as a whole and it seemed like Tropy might be able to accommodate that in a way Zotero can’t at present. But I think this would be easier for me to finagle myself than the Zotero end of things and I really don’t want two separate copies of each file (I already have like 5 between the original file, old Zotero libraries, and old attempts to finagle this myself)… Basically, I’m not sure why wouldn’t Tropy need a citation manager if it’s geared at historians since a large part of what historians do with their primary source documents is cite them? (This question sounds snarkier than I intend it–I genuinely want to know) I see the plugin but it’s not listed with other Tropy plugins and I’m not really tech savvy enough to set it up myself from GitHub, plus it seems like it hasn’t been updated in a while…
Hi, there are still no plans to generate citations directly in Tropy – but I’ve added installation instructions to the CSL plugin: GitHub - tropy/tropy-plugin-csl.